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success in the debate was that this was the moderate romney. that he basically repudiated all of his campaign positions and this is of course what the obama campaign is saying. >> is that true? >> well, i think they're allowed to the fact he was able to challenge the president on things thats' claimed he's saying and democrats famously say that republicans want polluted water and slave work-- sweatshops and low wages for working people. and he was able to challenge those things directly to the president. and he never, you know, it's not nice to use the word liar for your opponent in politics, but he was able to basically layout where what the president has been saying about him is not true. >> paul: let's show a clip of the president's frustration with some of mitt romney's answers. >> he says that he's going to close deductions and loopholes for his tax plan and that's how it's going to be paid for, but we don't know the details, he says that he's going to replace dodd frank, wall street reform, but we don't know exactly which ones. he won't t
success in the debate was that this was the moderate romney. that he basically repudiated all of his campaign positions and this is of course what the obama campaign is saying. >> is that true? >> well, i think they're allowed to the fact he was able to challenge the president on things thats' claimed he's saying and democrats famously say that republicans want polluted water and slave work-- sweatshops and low wages for working people. and he was able to challenge those things...
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romney's debate partner calls the president a tough debater. >> barack obama is going to be formidable, and i think it will be a good debate, but i certainly would not underestimate what barack obama brings to it. >> reporter: john kerry's playing romney with the president. in a weekend memo, republicans urged kerry to press the president on libya and syria. romney calls obama's foreign policy dangerous. romney's debate plan, clearly and concisely explain how he can fix the economy. >> i expect to be able to describe that in a way people will understand, and if they do, i get elected. >> reporter: his running mate, paul ryan, is already preparing for his own debate a week away. >> i really believe in the policies that we're providing, we're pursuing. and at the end of the day, i'm just going to go in there and be me. >> reporter: and if you can't control what actually happens in the debate, you certainly control what happens afterwards. the spin already in the planning. ryan's going to be with romney in virginia. the president is staying in colorado for a rally there. veronica? >> trac
romney's debate partner calls the president a tough debater. >> barack obama is going to be formidable, and i think it will be a good debate, but i certainly would not underestimate what barack obama brings to it. >> reporter: john kerry's playing romney with the president. in a weekend memo, republicans urged kerry to press the president on libya and syria. romney calls obama's foreign policy dangerous. romney's debate plan, clearly and concisely explain how he can fix the economy....
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governor romney, he's a good debater. i'm just okay. >> nbc's chris tin welker is live and joins us from las vegas not far from henderson, nevada, where the president is preparing for wednesday night. good afternoon, kristin. the last time i heard such a chorus of lowering expectations was when pinklynn thomas got into the ring with tyson only for tyson to land a flurry of 16 punches. is this more about avoiding embarrassment as opposed to landing a killer blow? >> reporter: well, i think it is, martin. i think you're absolutely right. one more point about mike tyson though, it was right here in las vegas that he did some serious damage to evander holyfield's ear. so i think we're hoping wednesday night's debate doesn't get that ugly. but i think you're right. i think both candidates are really hoping to just walk away from wednesday night unscathed, and that will look like a victory for each of them. on mitt romney's part, his advisers say he has to get more specific about his economic policy. that's what voters want to
governor romney, he's a good debater. i'm just okay. >> nbc's chris tin welker is live and joins us from las vegas not far from henderson, nevada, where the president is preparing for wednesday night. good afternoon, kristin. the last time i heard such a chorus of lowering expectations was when pinklynn thomas got into the ring with tyson only for tyson to land a flurry of 16 punches. is this more about avoiding embarrassment as opposed to landing a killer blow? >> reporter: well, i...
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but the debate that mitt romney put on. it was a mitt romney debate. not reagan. the depraspness of the issues and the way he went and from the beginning to the end. there great moments all the way through. there were not just one but many. that was the best debate since lincoln and i say that to honor mitt romney for what he did and not tie him to ronald reagan. we make a mistake when we look for ronald reagan. we were not looking for lincoln when we found reagan. and we were looking for a landlorder and we found one the other night. >> so many conservatives feel your father set the high bar in the presidential debates. >> i think they probably did. that is the only person they have been able to quote. they had no other republican to quote . now there is another republican. i bruced mitt romney a couplev years ago in the los angeles california club and i said to the group that is there. let's not make the mistake of looking for the next ronald reagan. we may do that and walk past the next great leader of our movement. when you put machine up against ronald reagan
but the debate that mitt romney put on. it was a mitt romney debate. not reagan. the depraspness of the issues and the way he went and from the beginning to the end. there great moments all the way through. there were not just one but many. that was the best debate since lincoln and i say that to honor mitt romney for what he did and not tie him to ronald reagan. we make a mistake when we look for ronald reagan. we were not looking for lincoln when we found reagan. and we were looking for a...
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both sides say romney budget any wins debate one. with 30 days until the election we will discuss where the campaign stands now. with republican senator kelly ayotte and democratic governor martin o'malley. then a debate guru explains the dos and don'ts when 67 million people are watching. we'll ask brett o'donnell to review what obama and romney did in the first debate and what they should do better next time. plus this week's face-off between the vice presidential candidates. we will ask our sunday panel to handicap biden versus ryan. and we go "on the trail" all right now on "fox news sunday." and h hello again from fox news in washington. big changes in the presidential race this week. the romney campaign was reenergized by the governor's strong performance in the first debate. but president obama got a big boost with a new jobs report that showed a sharp drop in the unemployment rate. we are going to have our own debate today between democratic governor martin o'malley of maryland and republican senator kelly ayotte of new hamps
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it and after the romney debate after the ryan debate in a sense can it confirm what romney did. i think it is a very important moment. vice president biden will try very hard to retrospecktively discredit mitt romney's victory. he will say maybe obama was off his game a little. he won't say that but implication. all lies, deception, flip flopping, big mirage that you saw for 90 minutes. biden is going to come incredibly hard at romney. ryan has to defend romney and in effect consolidate romney's gains. like coming in in the second leg of a relay race. your team is ahead and you got to hold the lead and got to, of course, attack the obama biden record but above all sort of consolidate what romney did in the first debate and not let biden undercut it. >> geraldo: so you think that joe biden has to do something the president did not. he has to take it to his opponent? >> he is totally going to do that. not to ryan but to romney. if i were biden i would take all 45 minutes of the 90 minutes i have to attack romney both on the record and romney was wrong about the $5 trillion tax cut
it and after the romney debate after the ryan debate in a sense can it confirm what romney did. i think it is a very important moment. vice president biden will try very hard to retrospecktively discredit mitt romney's victory. he will say maybe obama was off his game a little. he won't say that but implication. all lies, deception, flip flopping, big mirage that you saw for 90 minutes. biden is going to come incredibly hard at romney. ryan has to defend romney and in effect consolidate...
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the romney campaign, after the first debate, looking at some of the enthusiasm. later, my conversation as i mentioned with arnold schwarzenegger. much more to come with our special panel right after this. >>> "meet the press" is brought to you by the boeing company. >>> coming up next, more with our roundtable. chuck todd will go inside the numbers looking at enthusiasm in the electorate. >>> excuse me, governor. mr. president. >> i'm sorry. yeah, yeah, what's up? >> mr. president, governor romney has just said that he killed osama bin laden. [ laughter ] would you care to respond? >> no. you two go ahead. [ laughter ] >> robert gibbs, i want to get you on the record on this. what specifically does the president have to do better in the next debate? >> well, look, i think you're going to see a very engaged president that is ready and willing to call out whichever mitt romney shows up. >> that's not the president who showed up in the first debate. >> again, i'm not going to take away from mitt's masterful, theatrical performance. he did a superb acting job. he did
the romney campaign, after the first debate, looking at some of the enthusiasm. later, my conversation as i mentioned with arnold schwarzenegger. much more to come with our special panel right after this. >>> "meet the press" is brought to you by the boeing company. >>> coming up next, more with our roundtable. chuck todd will go inside the numbers looking at enthusiasm in the electorate. >>> excuse me, governor. mr. president. >> i'm sorry. yeah,...
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the romney campaign, after the first debate, looking at some of the enthusiasm. later, my conversation as i mentioned with arnold schwarzenegger. much more to come with our special panel right after this. >>> "meet the press" is brought special panel right after this. >>> "meet the prwe're sittinght on a bunch of shale gas. there's natural gas under my town. it's a game changer. ♪ it means cleaner, cheaper american-made energy. but we've got to be careful how...
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mitt romney came prepared to play, drove to debate. i don't think the president has been talked to like this over the past four years, and i think he was so surprised that romney was just sort of plat out lying, never proposed a 20% tax cut. we've been hearing that a lot. and i think that threw him off his game. it propels all of his campaign into the next debate. mitt romney could have gone down and this race would have been over. now we have a horse race on our hands. >> do you think democrats will hire rob portman for debate preparation? >> the ads in the campaign, so negative, and so nasty. i expected president obama to start bucking about bain capital, 47%. >> never debate on your anniversary, an important lesson. it just doesn't seem to work. the big change, president obama running ads in the swing states about this terrible person mitt romney who wants to eat babies and throw granny in the snow. just terrible. that guy didn't show up. america met a guy with very calm, presidential temperament. as a matter of fact, snis interchan
mitt romney came prepared to play, drove to debate. i don't think the president has been talked to like this over the past four years, and i think he was so surprised that romney was just sort of plat out lying, never proposed a 20% tax cut. we've been hearing that a lot. and i think that threw him off his game. it propels all of his campaign into the next debate. mitt romney could have gone down and this race would have been over. now we have a horse race on our hands. >> do you think...
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unemployment drops below 8% for the first time in 44 months, both sides say romney wins debate e. with 30 days until the election, we'll discuss where the campaign stands now with republican senator kelly ayotte and democratic governor mark o'malley and, a debate guru explains the dos and don'ts. when 67 million people are watching. we'll ask brett o'donnell to review what obama and romney did in the first debate and what they should do better, next time. >>> plus, this week's face off between the vice presidential candidates. we'll ask our sunday panel the handicap, biden versus ryan. >>> and with the campaigns in post-debate spin cycle, we go on the trail. all, right now, on fox news sunday. ♪ >> chris: and, hello, again, from fox news in washington. big changes in the presidential race, this week. the romney campaign was reenergized by the governor' strong performance in the first debate, but president obama got a big boost with a new jobs report, that showed a sharp drop in the unemployment rate. we're going to have our own debate today, between democratic governor mark o'ma
unemployment drops below 8% for the first time in 44 months, both sides say romney wins debate e. with 30 days until the election, we'll discuss where the campaign stands now with republican senator kelly ayotte and democratic governor mark o'malley and, a debate guru explains the dos and don'ts. when 67 million people are watching. we'll ask brett o'donnell to review what obama and romney did in the first debate and what they should do better, next time. >>> plus, this week's face off...
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romney at the first debate? >> well, this isn't the first time, if that's the case, and, indeed, shall we say he had kind of a loose relationship with the facts coloring them to favor his own side, and the question is does it matter at this point when we already know that about 95% of the voters have made up their minds and their feelings about the candidates are pretty well baked in. the people watching now are what we call the low information voters. they can't help it, they're busy with other things perhaps, but they're catching up to the campaign now, and they're going by first impressions, and they might not be that familiar with all the context of the figure that is romney is quoting, and this was where president obama could have done a better job of responding on the spot, but i guess he didn't want to appear rude. >> indeed. okay. i should point out that the gallup tracking poll today does have the president five points ahead, but the pew poll, as i said, has mitt romney ahead by four points. anna marie,
romney at the first debate? >> well, this isn't the first time, if that's the case, and, indeed, shall we say he had kind of a loose relationship with the facts coloring them to favor his own side, and the question is does it matter at this point when we already know that about 95% of the voters have made up their minds and their feelings about the candidates are pretty well baked in. the people watching now are what we call the low information voters. they can't help it, they're busy...
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romney was a great debater, but he's not running for president of the debate club. he's running for president of the united states, which means he has to be truthful. he has to say things based on facts. as you saw, yes, he speaks well, but what did he say? >> he abandoned his big, bold idea of a $5 trillion tax cut. he says that he's not going to raise taxes. he says he's not going to raise taxes on the middle class, and the tax policy center and i think you were in a commercial quoting the tax policy center have said that's just not true. so, yes, he speaks well. just because he says it doesn't mean it's so. >> as i said, i was very not joining that commercial. we protested the fact of that commercial, and that actually came from a report where we criticized both candidates. the president made comments about social security and simpson-boles and a number of other things that didn't add up either. both sides made misstatements in the debate. doesn't the president need a different game plan going into the next debate? >> i don't accept that the postulation that both
romney was a great debater, but he's not running for president of the debate club. he's running for president of the united states, which means he has to be truthful. he has to say things based on facts. as you saw, yes, he speaks well, but what did he say? >> he abandoned his big, bold idea of a $5 trillion tax cut. he says that he's not going to raise taxes. he says he's not going to raise taxes on the middle class, and the tax policy center and i think you were in a commercial quoting...
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romney did well in the debate. i will admit that, i give him a b-plus on style, but i give him a d-minus on substance and truthfulness. >> you know, why -- >> he did not tell the truth. >> president obama didn't challenge him on the stage, which i think probably is what a lot of democrats think the problem was. let me ask you about ohio's job. as you know, both of you know, ohio's unemployment rate is lower than the national average. it was 5.4%, governor, when you took office. it hit its high point in 2010. ten points now it's down. by 7.2%. now, i want to just play you what governor kasik, a republican, said at the rnc. >> we've made real progress in ohio in restoring confidence because that's what so much of life is about. we are setting people free in order to build success, but we need a new partner in washington. this relationship is just not working. it is holding us back. >> so governor, first to you. who is responsible for the good economy, or relatively good economy in ohio? >> thank you for playing that
romney did well in the debate. i will admit that, i give him a b-plus on style, but i give him a d-minus on substance and truthfulness. >> you know, why -- >> he did not tell the truth. >> president obama didn't challenge him on the stage, which i think probably is what a lot of democrats think the problem was. let me ask you about ohio's job. as you know, both of you know, ohio's unemployment rate is lower than the national average. it was 5.4%, governor, when you took...
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romney obviously did well enough in the primary debates to make it this far, no doubt. although most of his competition wasn't as tough as president obama. romney also had some memorable moments. >> i'll tell you what. $10,000 bet? >> i'm not in the betting business. >> the answer is self-deportation, which is people decide they can do better by going home because they can't find work here because they don't have legal departmentation to allow them to work here. >> i can't have illegals. rick, i'm speaking. i'm speaking. you get 30 seconds. this is the way the rules work here is i get 60 seconds. and then you get 30 seconds to respond, right? >> well, let's bring in democratic strategist chris ko kofinis and susan del percio. i think romney is going to lose his cool. susan, did governor chris christie think he was helping mitt romney by saying that the debate would just be turning this race upside down? what do you think? >> i think chris christie was just being chris christie. while you're correct, a lot of people were dampening expectations, chris said what a lot of p
romney obviously did well enough in the primary debates to make it this far, no doubt. although most of his competition wasn't as tough as president obama. romney also had some memorable moments. >> i'll tell you what. $10,000 bet? >> i'm not in the betting business. >> the answer is self-deportation, which is people decide they can do better by going home because they can't find work here because they don't have legal departmentation to allow them to work here. >> i...
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tell me have you spoken to governor romney since the debate? >> i. i can tell you he was smiling and happy with how things went tonight. tonight was a historical night. and this is a sense that that is shocking. the performance but there is a problem for governor and drk-excuse me, the president, mitt romney was ready, and prepared. and he was ten yaishis and respectful. the president meandering. i think he left his heart back in washington, d.c.. he was boring and wasn't prepared for the president it was unbelievable for the wrong reasons for governor romney this was a night i think expired this constory that there is someone in governor romney not only capable of doing the things necessary to get this country back on track but there is a governor who is prepared, detailed. he came out ready to go for the american people and with almost 60 million people watching tonight i think he gave the american people what they -- what the respect they deserved. >> since you're the inside track there is for instance, do you know where paul ryan is tonight? wher
tell me have you spoken to governor romney since the debate? >> i. i can tell you he was smiling and happy with how things went tonight. tonight was a historical night. and this is a sense that that is shocking. the performance but there is a problem for governor and drk-excuse me, the president, mitt romney was ready, and prepared. and he was ten yaishis and respectful. the president meandering. i think he left his heart back in washington, d.c.. he was boring and wasn't prepared for the...
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according to a cnn poll, 67% of adults thought romney won the debate compared to just 25% who picked the president. 46% of undecided voters in a cbs poll gave the win to romney to just 22% for mr. obama. nearly a third of the undecideds were undecided. romney's positive rating rose above 50% for the first time in this campaign in a reuters poll. the president's ratings stayed unchanged at 56%. romney stayed on the attack even though his positions were to be charitable and flatly untrue. here's some of what he said about his tax plan and the economy. >> romney: i'm not in favor of a $5 trillion tax cut. my plan is not to put in place any tax cut that will add to the deficit. my view is we ought to provide tax relief to people in the middle class but i'm not going to reduce the share of taxes paid by high income people. we have 23 million people out of work. or stop look for work in this country. >> eliot: here's how the obama campaign responded to some of the claims. with an ad released this afternoon that relied on fact checkers. >> mitt romney has not laid out specifics for how he w
according to a cnn poll, 67% of adults thought romney won the debate compared to just 25% who picked the president. 46% of undecided voters in a cbs poll gave the win to romney to just 22% for mr. obama. nearly a third of the undecideds were undecided. romney's positive rating rose above 50% for the first time in this campaign in a reuters poll. the president's ratings stayed unchanged at 56%. romney stayed on the attack even though his positions were to be charitable and flatly untrue. here's...
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that is a thousand more than mitt romney during the course of that debate. psych physiologists say that since 1980, the candidate who blinked the least during the debates went on to win the popular vote. there are exceptions, though. in 2004, president george w. bush not only blinked more in the debate against senator john kerry, he also won re-election, so there you go. >>> up next, getting in the way of democracy. the latest news that could affect who might get stopped on their way to the voting booth during election day. this is msnbc. [ man ] ring ring... progresso this reduced sodium soup says it may help lower cholesterol, how does it work? you just have to eat it as part of your heart healthy diet. step 1. eat the soup. all those veggies and beans, that's what may help lower your cholesterol and -- well that's easy [ male announcer ] progresso. you gotta taste this soup. that's what may help lower your cholesterol and -- well that's easy you're not just looking for a by house. eyes you're looking for a place for your life to happen. i'm done! [ chuckl
that is a thousand more than mitt romney during the course of that debate. psych physiologists say that since 1980, the candidate who blinked the least during the debates went on to win the popular vote. there are exceptions, though. in 2004, president george w. bush not only blinked more in the debate against senator john kerry, he also won re-election, so there you go. >>> up next, getting in the way of democracy. the latest news that could affect who might get stopped on their way...
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i don't think mitt romney will be able to do that effectively during the course of the debate, because in the debate he has to try to appeal to the middle. i think they wanted to get a little something out there for the base, so is that they would have -- so that today they could be, you know, talking about that horrible, you know, barack obama, the black man, in advance of the debate. >> yeah, absolutely, shock, horror, barack obama is a black man. michael, i've read your outstanding piece in which you talk about the fact that the process of fact-checking by voters has actually declined. it's almost a suggestion we've had so many lies through this campaign, and i can think of at least 60 delivered by the romney/ryan camp, that people are just not responding to it anymore. >> you know, the irony is the press is actually much better at calling out these deceptions but the public has not yet shown they are willing to move on these deceptions. they don't -- they for give their own guy for deceiving and they love blaming the other guy for deceiving. there hasn't been any punishment. if you
i don't think mitt romney will be able to do that effectively during the course of the debate, because in the debate he has to try to appeal to the middle. i think they wanted to get a little something out there for the base, so is that they would have -- so that today they could be, you know, talking about that horrible, you know, barack obama, the black man, in advance of the debate. >> yeah, absolutely, shock, horror, barack obama is a black man. michael, i've read your outstanding...
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governor mitt romney is picking up where he left off in last night's debate. a debate most americans say he won, according to the polls. the governor back on the campaign trail tonight and he is taking aim at president obama again. >> i saw the president's vision as trickle down government, and i don't think that's what america believes in. i see, instead, a prosperity that comes through freedom. >> the president is back on the trail as well. and he is a lot more fired up than he was last night. ed henry is live for us in denver. ed, he seemed to immediately go on offense today. >> that's right. trace. immediately going on the attack, in fact, and that sort of undermines the argument from some of the president's top advisors that he did just fine in this debate. he seemed to realize he has got some work to do and immediately rolled up the sleeves, started hitting mitt romney and got some comfort by the way in these big rallies. one in denver he got 12,000 people here. in madison, wisconsin, 30,000 people. huge crowd. better reception than he he did last night.
governor mitt romney is picking up where he left off in last night's debate. a debate most americans say he won, according to the polls. the governor back on the campaign trail tonight and he is taking aim at president obama again. >> i saw the president's vision as trickle down government, and i don't think that's what america believes in. i see, instead, a prosperity that comes through freedom. >> the president is back on the trail as well. and he is a lot more fired up than he...
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i don't know what will happen at the debates. >> governor romney is a good debater. i'm just okay. >> the soft performance has gotten so soft it's almost evaporated. but while almost everyone seems to be muting enthusiasm in trying to undersell new jersey governor chris christie is taking a different tack. overselling with gusto. >> come thursday morning, the entire narrative of this race is going to change. we have a candidate that is going to do extraordinarily well on wednesday night. when we get to thursday morning george, you're going to be shaking your head saying it's a brand new race with 33 days to go. >> governor christie right in the sense that romney needs to change the dynamic of the race. a new "washington post"/abc news survey find 5s 5% of voters think the president will win the debates compared to 31% who believe rom wil win. romney adviser tell "the new york times" they're aiming to make the president come off as condescending or smug. that characterized obama's notable gaffe during the 2008 primary when hillary clinton was asked what she would say
i don't know what will happen at the debates. >> governor romney is a good debater. i'm just okay. >> the soft performance has gotten so soft it's almost evaporated. but while almost everyone seems to be muting enthusiasm in trying to undersell new jersey governor chris christie is taking a different tack. overselling with gusto. >> come thursday morning, the entire narrative of this race is going to change. we have a candidate that is going to do extraordinarily well on...
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when mitt romney beat president obama in last night's televised debate. so the first televised presidential debate that we had was in 1960. here are all of the other years that we have since have televised presidential debates. every four years now we have these debates on tv. the only years, though, so these are all the years, right, right? the only years, though, in which you had an incumbent president running against a challenger in all of the years we've had presidential debates on tv are these years. so in terms of understanding the historical context of what happened last night when mitt romney beat president obama in this first debate, this is the universe of like things to compare it to. this is how to understand it in terms of american political history. it's only these years right here. that's it. now, by definition, you never have an incumbent president in this situation more than once. presidents can only serve two terms so there's only one opportunity when they carry into that debate, when they're running for re-election, they carry into that
when mitt romney beat president obama in last night's televised debate. so the first televised presidential debate that we had was in 1960. here are all of the other years that we have since have televised presidential debates. every four years now we have these debates on tv. the only years, though, so these are all the years, right, right? the only years, though, in which you had an incumbent president running against a challenger in all of the years we've had presidential debates on tv are...